tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2414736909420043263.post4610069324091145997..comments2024-03-03T05:32:43.639-05:00Comments on The CCE-Drive: Open Data vs. OpenGov: This is Not a PenCraig C-Ehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04497351002357692661noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2414736909420043263.post-46263592544530616182014-10-30T10:29:57.628-04:002014-10-30T10:29:57.628-04:00Keith, didn't see this last quote 'til now...Keith, didn't see this last quote 'til now but I agree. At TGIFTuesday two nights ago, the weather impacted turnout which required a change in event dynamics. The team had ideas, made amazing things happen; essentially I just had to give them room and maybe provide a post to grow around. The rest they did themselves and it worked. <br /><br />We need more of that kind of approach, but it requires trust, empowerment, engagement. It's doable though.Craig C-Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04497351002357692661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2414736909420043263.post-6052951729303675382014-09-26T12:13:50.462-04:002014-09-26T12:13:50.462-04:00Taking the sports thing a bit further. I was readi...Taking the sports thing a bit further. I was reading about Derek Jeter's last game as a Yankee (last night or Sept 25th). And, sure enough, he went out as having brought in the winning run for his team. Way to leave the game! <br /><br />I also thought how great it is he was allowed to do his thing up to the end. Not discounting the fact he was still capable of doing his thing right up to the end.<br /><br />What I mean is team management and team mates worked well enough together to achieve results on the field and that would appear to be something we need to see happen in the Open Data arena. <br /><br />Time for government to acknowledge and do what they do and acknowledge and let the community do what they do. Together the efforts should lead to a great result. <br /><br />Not everyone likes sports analogies so maybe I'll leave it at that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05678153351115927886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2414736909420043263.post-7351775361088292542014-09-26T10:14:17.740-04:002014-09-26T10:14:17.740-04:00People totally can get excited about data, if it&#...People totally can get excited about data, if it's framed the right way - http://www.gapminder.org/ comes to mind. We don't do static, or numbers, well; what works with sports is the association with an individual or a tribe (er, team). Some combination of that framing (which might mean turning curators into celebrities, which is fine by me) and making data more dynamic is critical.<br /><br />Above that, though, you're right - we have a laissez-faire culture that would rather see nothing done than something that doesn't benefit us (or is seen as disproportionately favouring the other guy, whether it's rich/poor/minority/majority/gender etc.)<br /><br />People need a central concept (or figure) to believe in, something that unites them in it's potential and empowers them to be a bit more altruistic with their resources/expectations.<br /><br />Which will be...Craig C-Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04497351002357692661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2414736909420043263.post-34397044594420457702014-09-25T16:45:53.191-04:002014-09-25T16:45:53.191-04:00I like this!
Ink is to the pen as open data is to...I like this!<br /><br />Ink is to the pen as open data is to open government. I like the natural resource analogy as well. water is to quenched thirst as open data is to ????<br /><br />People may want tools so the "it" can be easy. People want things done their way without a lot of intrusion. <br /><br />However, there are different ways to deliver virtually anything and how do we align individual expectations with critical mass or even values of society?<br /><br />Debates on all kinds of things from transit to health care demonstrate there is little consensus or even a willingness to compromise.<br /><br />I think that's where data can be a great neutralizer and we have to get people excited about that!<br /><br />There are precedents. Sports enthusiasts will eagerly check stats and spend time arguing what they show. Can we get people to see and use data about city and government in the same way? If the data were available and presented like hockey stats would we have more uptake by the average citizen? <br /><br />The challenges aren't unique to anyone trying to market a concept. The resources to break through the noise are hard to come by. It would be so much easier if Ellen or Oprah or John Stewart would talk about this - get the buzz into pop culture. But, clearly, we might have to think about selling open data the way you sell soap.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05678153351115927886noreply@blogger.com